Help needed

[almyers]

I've been asked to edit a short film that will be finished using digital intermediate - eventually to end up on 35mm. It was shot on 16mm. At the moment I only have access to FCP3. I have theoretical knowledge about the digital intermediate process but I'm sure there are heaps of practical things I need to know. I've blundered my way through the technical issues on my last few films so this time I thought I should ask for help before I started. Can anyone help?

[shilby]

IMHO kine looks horrible but that's a different animal. I haven't any personal experience with DI but here's some links, all very interesting.

http://www.editorsguild.com/newsletter/MayJun02/digital_intermediate.html

http://indieproducing.com/digital_tech_archives/intermediate.html

http://www.cinesite.com/?1221&0&3821

WaZ.

[Peter]

Originally posted by almyers
I've blundered my way through the technical issues on my last few films so this time I thought I should ask for help before I started.

Alison,

It's a good idea to ask for help before you start. We never like to see our members blunder through technical issues. That's why we're here. I would suggest you speak to the people who are making the DI and they can take you through the full process. If you are unsure at this stage as to who is doing it, speak to the good people at AtLab or Frame, Set & Match and they will be more than happy to help you.

If you need any further help with contacts, please don't hesitate to ask.

Kind Regards,

Pete.

[Bill]

AFTRS Editing dept saw a growing need for knowledge like this and I commissioned Fiona Strain (ASE) to adapt our full time course "From Rushes to Final Product" and give it a particular focus on a DV shoot with a full range of deliverables - 35mm, DVD etc. While it has got a focus on projects with digital acquisition most of the knowledge is of common to most post paths and productions.

This is a fabulous course that despite various marketing strategies almost no one came to.

It is currently sitting on the back burner awaiting another marketing attempt or further interest.
Info from the brochure follows......


Digital Video - The Professional Finish 'post-production demystified'

You may be shooting your first documentary, a pilot for a TV series, or if your dream comes true, your first feature. If you are doing it on Digital video, then this course will take you through the whole post-production process. It will tell you what to prepare before you go into production, discuss formats, aspect ratios, editing systems, sound post and finishing for broadcast. You will look at schedules, flowcharts, budgets and what you need to do to get your production onto DVD, film or webcast. The course is suitable for emerging producers, directors, editors, assistant editors and post-production supervisors.


If there is enough interest we will run it again. We could also adapt it further to include a film acquisition if people wanted it.

If you are interested contact Emelda on Sydney 9805 6599 or emeldad@aftrs.edu.au

[Nick Brenner]

Just thought I'd add that FCP3 did not come with Cinema Tools - it was $1000 extra but was included in FCP4 & 5. If you need this you might want to look at upgrading.

"Cinema Tools for Final Cut Pro is the ideal solution for filmmakers who shoot and finish with 35mm or 16mm film, but want to take advantage of the cost and time benefits of digitally editing on a Final Cut Pro system. Cinema Tools converts "telecined" content to its native 24-frame rate for editing, then generates a 24-fps cut list for negative conform.

With its support for 24-fps EDL import/export, Cinema Tools for Final Cut Pro not only provides video professionals with an affordable path to online HD finishing, but also the EDL conversion capabilities required to create high-definition 24P universal masters used to efficiently meet the needs of varying international distribution formats." from Apple.

cheers Nick

[Bill]

We hope to run a course at AFTRS at the end of the year (read probably December, watch this space) on using Cinema Tools in FCP.

The course will be run by Nick Meyers who recently cut the feature "Three Dollars" on his laptop and used FCP and Cinema Tools. Nick is one of the moderators on the LAFCPUG Cafe LA forum which is probably the most useful "help" forum on the www for FCP.
http://www.lafcpug.org/forum.html

Keep your eye on the AFTRS website for a release date.
http://www.aftrs.edu.au/index.cfm?objectId=3182C26D-D0B7-4CD6-F9066EB7FB7E6D53#Editing

[rachelw]

regarding the fcp cut list for conform, I have heard tell from a neg cutter that these are not very reliable out of fcp. I don't have to deal with this myself but it might be worth asking a neg cutting house about before deciding to work fcp.

[almyers]

Thanks, everyone. I haven't actually heard back from the director yet, but at least I have some idea of what I'm getting into.